Partner Publications Accepting Submissions on the OAF Forum

[Jay Dougherty]

My latest idea is to expand the OAF forum by reaching out to editors of various lit/art journals online to see whether they'd like to use OAF as a vehicle for submissions--not the only vehicle, perhaps, but one. I'd create a board (and sub-boards, if desired) for each zine/lit mag on OAF under Partner Publications. Ultimately I might make OAF itself a partner publication among the others. Fits in with the "open arts" idea anyway, I think.

Right now, as I see it, if you're a publisher/editor of an online mag, you either use Submittable, which is now too expensive for small outlets, or you use e-mail, which some are okay with. I'm not, as it clogs up one's inbox and makes it difficult to have multiple editors viewing submissions.

Plus, from a user perspective, having multiple outlets under one roof might be interesting and beneficial in a number of ways, for both editors and creatives. The only downside that I can see might be privacy (some contributors don't want others to see their work). But for them there's always the e-mail route or Submittable, for those journals that take it.

If you can think of other good zines/lit mags that might be interested (places where your work has been published, for example), let me know, and I'll approach their editors with the idea. I'll scout around myself to test the waters, too. Might be fun for everyone.

 

[David E. Matthews]

creative idea.
might be a good one. 8^)

 

[Jay Dougherty]

creative idea.
might be a good one. 8^)

I never know. I just throw them out there and see what sticks. I hope this one does, though. Early results look good. I will be adding one new partner journal this evening when I get home.

 

[David E. Matthews]

so OAF will be a feeder for other sites? in addition to its own front page?

I like the hands on experimentation . . .
if it works, or not, you've saved a lot of time and hand-wringing about 'will it work' . . .
then move on to the next big idea 8^)

 

[Jay Dougherty]

so OAF will be a feeder for other sites? in addition to its own front page?

I like the hands on experimentation . . .
if it works, or not, you've saved a lot of time and hand-wringing about 'will it work' . . .
then move on to the next big idea 8^)

Something like that. I see only benefit in cross-pollination, of sorts. Gets the word out about smallish publications. Opens things up both for them and for contributors. I see it as a win-win. Of course I might be missing something. But we’ll see.

 

[David E. Matthews]

good luck.

 

[Jay Dougherty]

good luck.

to us all...

 

[Trish Saunders]

Is our content visible to editors/members of other poetry org's? If we don't submit via their links?

 

[Jay Dougherty]

Is our content visible to editors/members of other poetry org's? If we don't submit via their links?

The forum is not visible to the public, no.

 

[Jay Dougherty]

Something like that. I see only benefit in cross-pollination, of sorts. Gets the word out about smallish publications. Opens things up both for them and for contributors. I see it as a win-win. Of course I might be missing something. But we’ll see.

So I think what I was missing is that most mags want to see themselves as their own little eco system. They want to keep things in-house, not shared w/ other ventures. I can relate. So my kind of paradigm-bending idea was doomed.

If I had more energy, I'd write a little article about some longstanding mag policies that need to be dustbinned. Example: no simultaneous submissions. What a joke. Here's a rule: don't have a rule that you can't enforce. There's no way to know whether a creative will submit something to more than one journal. Even if there were, so what? Maybe magazines need to quit sitting on submissions for 6 months. Ha!

Another dumb rule: Accepting previously unpublished work only, and insisting that an appearance somewhere on the internet (including a message board) constitutes "published." This is the stupidest kind of "used goods" thinking I can imagine. It also fails to recognize how unlikely it is for one mag's audience to overlap with another's. I can see it, though, from the standpoint of rights: a mag doesn't want to chase down another publication for republication rights. Rights revert to authors, though, as they should, w/ most of these art/lit mags.

Anyway, I'm typed out now.

 

[Jay Dougherty]

I'm probably going to have to shut down Kiss My Poetry and Ten Million Flies because the server that this site is on (and also those sites) is running out of memory. In short, I don't think this server has enough resources to host more than this site, and I don't want to pay more money each month for a higher-end server. The host is fiddling with some things now, but bottom line is that three sites on this entry-level managed VPS are too many.

@Daniel J. Flore III @Michael Acker @Mike Casetta @DAVID LOHREY @Elvis Otis @Doug Flaherty

 

[DAVID LOHREY]

I'm probably going to have to shut down Kiss My Poetry and Ten Million Flies because the server that this site is on (and also those sites) is running out of memory. In short, I don't think this server has enough resources to host more than this site, and I don't want to pay more money each month for a higher-end server. The host is fiddling with some things now, but bottom line is that three sites on this entry-level managed VPS are too many.

@Daniel J. Flore III @Michael Acker @Mike Casetta @DAVID LOHREY @Elvis Otis @Doug Flaherty

Thanks for keeping us informed. This must be disappointing to you. I am sorry to hear this.

 

[Trish Saunders]

Yes, then take it down, Jay .... you absolutely should do that. Three are too many!

 

[Daniel J. Flore III]

I'm probably going to have to shut down Kiss My Poetry and Ten Million Flies because the server that this site is on (and also those sites) is running out of memory. In short, I don't think this server has enough resources to host more than this site, and I don't want to pay more money each month for a higher-end server. The host is fiddling with some things now, but bottom line is that three sites on this entry-level managed VPS are too many.

@Daniel J. Flore III @Michael Acker @Mike Casetta @DAVID LOHREY @Elvis Otis @Doug Flaherty

Oh that sucks but do what you have to do Jay.

 

[Doug Flaherty]

Understood. You have plenty busyness with OAF without all the added sites-- noble as they were.
Thanks for all your work these many months, Jay.

 

[Mike Casetta]

Thanks Jay! Sorry to hear that both sites are not viable options at this time. I appreciate your efforts to create new venues. I suggest if, in the future, the server can host a second site that you call it:

Ten Millions Flies Kiss My Poetry

 

[Jay Dougherty]

Thanks Jay! Sorry to hear that both sites are not viable options at this time. I appreciate your efforts to create new venues. I suggest if, in the future, the server can host a second site that you call it:

Ten Millions Flies Kiss My Poetry

LOL. I was thinking Kiss My Flies. Maybe a vote is in order.

 

[Jay Dougherty]

I've re-opened these. Been having fun w/ site design. That's a large part of why I do this. It's a creative outlet for me. I'm happy w/ how KMP is looking.

https://kissmypoetry.com/

 

[Jay Dougherty]

Great thank you Jay!
Just curious if you're picking up where you left off? This doesn't seem to be linked. https://kissmypoetry.com/elvis-otis/dissenting-face/1977/

I’ve got that scheduled for OAF. Seems to fit better here.

 

[Daniel J. Flore III]

Is there a forum for ten million flies?

 

[Jay Dougherty]

Is there a forum for ten million flies?

Not yet.